方大特钢股吧讨论区

jijinwang

最近一段时间格力的股价连续下跌,这几天更是越跌越快,很多人都把矛头对准了董明珠推出的员工持股计划,其中被大家骂得最多的是认购价格,居然是27.68元,考虑到现在的市场价格大约在50元左右,几乎是折让了40%到50%的样子。其实仅仅是认购价格低也就罢了,让部分人不爽的还有是当时先由公司拿出了195亿回购的股票,回购价格是55.89元,再低价对折卖给员工。还有让人不爽的地方在于,员工持股的业绩考核条件太过简单。第一年净利润增长不低于10%,第二年净利润较初值增长不低于20%,投资者认为这和白送没什么区别,因为定的目标太低了。
我在网上看到很多自媒体写的都是类似的理由,包括股吧里散户的帖子也是表达了不满的情绪。其实以上这些是真正的理由吗?都不是,最真实的理由其实是股价跌了大家不爽,凭什么我们都亏钱了你们反而拿走那么多,特别是董明珠居然自己一个人就要白白拿走8亿多!那么我们换一个问法,如果还是这个方案,但是股价却一直上涨,是骂的人多,还是支持的人多呢?叶公好龙,其实叶公好的不是龙,是龙的图案。投资者们不满,并不是真的不满这个股权激励计划,而是不满你赚得盆满钵满我却血亏。不患寡,患不均也。
格力的员工是否值得激励?我想这个问题应该没什么悬念吧,特别是董明珠,格力原来是一个什么样的厂子,大家都知道,不用我废话。把一个不大的厂子经过多年的努力,到现在总市值已经达到3000亿的水平,仅仅2020年就给股东创造了200亿以上利润,给员工用认购股票的方式发放一些奖金,很过分吗?应该不过分吧?
关于考核条件的问题,有些人提出来太低了,太容易达到。如果只看直观数据,年利润增长10%,第2年较初值增长不低于20%,可能是会觉得有点低。但是如果详细地看看格力这些年的利润增长情况之后,恐怕就不会说低了。格力2020年到2012年的净利润分别为221.8亿、247.0亿、262.0亿、224.0亿、154.6亿、125.3亿、141.6亿、108.7亿、73.80亿,同期利润增长率分别为-10.21%、-5.75%、16.97%、44.86%、23.39%、-11.46%、30.22%、47.30%、40.92%。从增长率来说,过去的2年都已经是负数了,现在不但不能下降还要提高10%,对于一个已经年营收2000亿左右利润200亿左右的超级大企业来说,绝对不是一个轻松的事情。如果以2020年的净利润为基数计算,能够拿到这笔激励的条件分别是第一年243.98亿第二年266.16亿,这个数字已经超过格力历史上最好的利润,实属不易。
对于增长率来说,可能我们已经习惯了成长股那种动辄50%、100%甚至数倍以上的增长,但是那都是建立在基数很低的前提下。一个企业原本一年利润只有100万,你就算增长100倍又如何,值得股价涨几倍吗?这些年以来,在各种研究机构的鼓吹之下,大家已经很习惯了高成长高市盈率,而且这么多年以来整个估值的体系都能维持,没有出现崩塌。但这是否就意味着安全呢?就好比一个患有高血压的病人,医学的标准是90/140,可是现在病人血压已经达到了100/180,但是病人自述感觉良好没有任何不适,那这个病人是否应该吃药控制血压呢?也许在很长的时间内都没有问题,可万一有一天突然因为长期的高血压导致血管破裂,病人就有生命危险,我们能说这个没有任何感觉的病人就不是病人了?
最后说说价格问题,根据格力的公告,股权激励的价格是回购成本的50%,我不知道这个价格是怎么制定出来的,但是从企业管理的角度来说,如果要对员工产生激励必须要有一定的盈利水平才行,否则叫什么激励呢?重赏之下必有勇夫这句话谁都听过,但是想要做得到却不是那么容易的事。更多人如果当了老总,可能会做的是又想马儿跑又想马儿不吃草吧?我曾经去过方大特钢,印象极其深刻,一个普通的中型钢铁企业盈利居然比国有的很多大型钢铁厂还要高,秘诀就是给员工高薪。他们厂里的中层干部年薪超过100万元的有17个,那是2014年,而且在南昌这样一个经济不算发达的省会城市,大家可以自己衡量一下。
至于大家最关心的股价,这本来不是我关心的范畴,不过我也忍不住提醒一下吧。格力电器近几年实际的增长率是负数,现在要努力做到年10%左右的增长,而且体量已经达到了年营收2000亿以上,如果不考虑行业和历史,只是单纯看这些数据,你会对这样的蓝筹股怎么定价呢?中国电建营收4000亿利润增长率10%市盈率约8倍,兴业银行营收2000亿利润增长率不足10%市盈率约7倍,相比之下,格力现在的股价很便宜吗?
其实不是格力股价太低,而是当时被捧的太高了而已。虽然说去年的分红很不错,按现在价格算股息率有6%左右,但是之前几年都太低,股息率不过区区2%,大家还是把它当成长股在炒了,可是有已经长得这么大的成长股吗?

一:方大特方大特钢股吧

首先,方大特钢有这个底气。

根据方大特钢发布的年报,方大特钢2020年净利润21个亿,比上年增长25.08%。

其销售毛利率达22.71%,净资产收益率达28.79%,这个赚钱能力很强。

可能有疑惑的是,净利润才有21亿,分红24亿,也就是赚的还不够分红,

那么还不够分红的钱从哪来呢?

这要看它的未分配利润。

正是由于公司钱赚得多,公司近年来的未分配利润在不断 增长。

2020年末,未分配利润达到48.04亿元。

分红缺口那3亿元就是从这来的。

也就是说,把以前赚的钱现在拿来分红了。

其次,方大特钢有这么传统。

方大特钢自上市以来,累计分红12次,累计分红金额达76.31亿元。

从2012年开始,方大特钢每年都有分红,或者送转。

比如,2017年是10派16元,2018年是10派17元,

2019年是10转4.9股,2020年则是10派11元。

历史上看,方大特钢属于高分红、高送转的类型。

资料显示,方大特钢的分红融资比达643.85%,

远超过其他行业内企业。


二:600507方大特钢股吧

目前,在双碳、能耗双控及采暖季错峰限产等政策约束下,钢价有很大的可能会维持高位震荡,对于钢铁行业一定是有益的,方大特钢也是钢铁行业的,这只股票出不出色,适不适合投资,下面我就来全面分析下。
在开始分析方大特钢前,我整理好的钢铁行业龙头股名单分享给大家,点击就可以领取:
宝藏资料!钢铁行业龙头股一栏表
方大特钢科技股份有限公司是一家集采矿、炼焦、烧结、炼铁、炼钢、轧材生产工艺于一体的钢铁联合企业,是弹簧扁钢和汽车板簧精品生产基地。方大特钢主要产品有以下这些:螺纹钢、汽车板簧、弹簧扁钢、铁精粉等。中国企业500强、江西省先进企业、中国钢铁工业先进集体等荣誉称号被方大特钢所荣获,拥有以下知名商标:"长力"、"海鸥"等。
简单介绍方大特钢后,接下来我们就从亮点研究一下方大特钢值不值得我们考虑。
"长力"、"红岩"、"春鹰"是方大特钢生产的汽车板簧系列产品拥有的三大知名品牌。方大特钢棒线产品中,海鸥牌热轧带肋钢筋取得了全国冶金实物质量"金杯奖","长力牌"冷镦实用了热轧盘条,也进一步获得了全国冶金行业"品质卓越产品",在市场上具有很好的口碑和质量评价。另外,方大特钢自主研发的环保型易切削钢盘条连续多年市场占有率全国领先。
亮点二:坚持普特结合,产品得到升级
方大特钢所长期执行的产品路线,就是普特结合,从高性能、高质量或用户定制弹扁产品开展研发和试制出发,其中在国际中处于先进水平的2000MPa全新板簧用钢,国内某客车品牌的车型道路实验成功完成,并进行少量的供货。除此之外,对用户定制的高端卡车板簧用高质量弹簧扁钢进行疲劳验证的结果是达到标准的,达到了国内知名商用车公司高端板簧产品的技术水平。由于篇幅受限,更多关于方大特钢的深度报告和风险提示,我整理在这篇研报当中,点击即可查看:
【深度研报】方大特钢点评,建议收藏!
进入"十四五"新发展阶段,我国低碳发展有关政策将从碳排放强度相对约束转向碳排放总量绝对约束。在钢铁工业高质量发展指导意见下,随着产业政策的调整、环保政策和能耗"双控"政策的趋严,粗钢产能、产量调控面临着较大的压力,对我国钢铁行业的后续发展要求进一步提高。
在2020年底工信部就提出2021年坚决压缩粗钢产量,确保粗钢产量同比下降。从长期看,钢铁行业总量控制将压制铁矿石等原料价格,一直稳固让钢企实现盈利,碳中和目标也将推动电炉钢占比大大提升,行业进行长期变革将不再是妄想。
综上所述,在碳中和的前提下,钢铁行业一定要进行转型,一路向着顺利进行发展,方大特钢继续向好发展也有了不小的可能。但是文章具有一定的滞后性,如果想更准确地知道方大特钢未来行情,直接点击链接,有专业的投顾帮你诊股,看下方大特钢估值是高估还是低估:
【免费】测一测方大特钢现在是高估还是低估?
应答时间:2021-11-30,最新业务变化以文中链接内展示的数据为准,请点击查看

三:方大特钢股票股吧

该股横盘时间长,介入可以不急忙,其它股票减仓后,逢低逐步去加仓。
近期钢材类个股有走强迹象,建议持有
从K形态看,该股票在除权前出现暴涨行情,除权后主力在寻机派发,所以这类股票后市空间不大,唯有横盘整理,等待新的主力入场。

四:方大特钢股票股吧东方财富

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方大特钢吧(600507)

方大特钢吧

8.94-0.11-1.22%

帖子数1篇

随影2017

影响力注册时长1.7年

发表于 今天 12:05 来自股吧网页版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 今天 12:07

已答

看好,买进

发表于 今天 12:03 来自股吧网页版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 今天 12:04

已答

此股股价不错,持有

庞振武

影响力注册时长1.4年

发表于 今天 10:44 来自东方财富Android版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 今天 10:44

已答

请问分红是股息是钱到帐号中,还是在股票中?

红豆杉1618

影响力注册时长2.1年

发表于 06-14 15:11 来自东方财富iPhone版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 今天 10:42

已答

今天买的人都要庆幸你买的是方大,方大明显止跌,看好下周方大的上涨

发表于 今天 10:40 来自东方财富Android版

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更新于 今天 10:41

已答

分红那么高,股价为什么还跌历害?

发表于 今天 08:27 来自股吧网页版

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更新于 今天 08:28

已答庆幸,明显止跌,看好

明日开市

平安福乐

影响力注册时长3.5年

发表于 06-07 17:49 来自股吧手机网页版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 06-15 22:59

已答

分红1.7元,下跌5元,倒赔3.3元,分红就是罚工资。

股友53EWYq2259

影响力注册时长1.5年

发表于 06-15 17:25 来自股吧网页版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 06-15 17:26

已答

西部矿业(601168)融资融券信息(06-14)

股友OelHce

影响力注册时长2.8年

发表于 06-14 22:36 来自股吧网页版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 06-15 00:18

已答会不会跌到6元下面

真的很担心

我是一个狙击手

影响力注册时长3个月

发表于 06-14 14:57 来自东方财富Android版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 06-14 14:59

已答

都下跌了20%了,不要脸还在下

发表于 06-14 14:51 来自东方财富iPhone版

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更新于 06-14 14:52

已答收盘价:8.98

我是木木哥

影响力注册时长1.3年

发表于 06-14 14:25 来自东方财富Android版

帖子审核中,仅自己可见

更新于 06-14 14:26

已答

今天这量都缩到极致了。

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